Confused.....

..... would one of you literary types out there please take a few moments to explain something to me?.... I've never read Stephen King's "The Shining" - and I don't plan to any time soon - but I HAVE seen the movie about thirty times..... so what the hell is the deal with Nicholson's character showing up in that photograph of the ballroom from the 4th of July Ball in 1921?.... what kind of weird, mystical, Stephen King bullshit is that all about?....

... what did I miss in the movie that must obviously be in the book?..... someone please explain it to me...... every time I get to that bit of the movie, it just pisses me off.....

..... and a pissed off Uncle Eric is an unhappy Uncle Eric..... so toss a man a break, it'll make me happy....

by Eric on June 05, 2008 | Bullshit (11) | TrackBack (0) | Ummm, Ok....
Bullshit So Far

Lots of discussion about this here.

One google search yielded up tons of possibilities.

Now, get happy, cuz it seems nobody really knows.

Bullshitted by Joan of Argghh! on June 5, 2008 06:18 PM

... thanks, Joan.... I take some consolation in knowing that at least I am not the only one....

Bullshitted by Eric on June 5, 2008 07:18 PM

That's an easy one, it's "memory". He was always doomed and thought that writing in solitude would bring on new beginnings. But to be learned is by experiencing, and to truly create without learning (hence a new start) means you are God. He was not and thus failed in a spooky sort of way. The Christ figure in this movie of course was his son.

-lco

Bullshitted by Lance Osborne on June 5, 2008 07:25 PM

I haven't been able to appear in ancient photographs yet, but do enjoy shouting REDRUM during code reviews and breaking in on Project Meetings with an axe and exclaiming "Here's Johnny!".

Bullshitted by Cappy on June 5, 2008 08:08 PM

I ain't got a stinkin' clue what the hell y'all are talkin' 'bout...

Bullshitted by Winston on June 5, 2008 09:06 PM

The movie is lame compared to the book, but it's still one of my favorites. Kubrick took quite a few liberties. I don't really speculate on Jack's being in the picture, other than he's home... whether the hotel took him, or he was always a part of it.

My favorite New Years Eve flick...

Bullshitted by That 1 Guy on June 5, 2008 09:09 PM

Eric,
I admire you and everything of yours that I have read....did I say "I have read"? yep I did..... READ THE BOOK.

Bullshitted by Michelle on June 5, 2008 09:49 PM

I read that book waaaaaaaaaayyyy back in Jr. high. Can't remmeber.
But The Stand is a MUCH better book.

Bullshitted by Maeve on June 6, 2008 07:32 AM

I don't remember if the picture deal was in the book. I can say I read the book after the movie and therefore the movie was not the typical disappointment it would have been had I read the book first. Yep, the book is much better than the movie; but a few things in the movie could not have been better. For example, while the whole plot is different - in the book the hotel is actually an entity - the character portrayed by Jack N. is spot on in the movie. Same goes for the character of his wife. She is a blond in the book as I recall, but the soul of each character was so well portrayed by these actors as to be remarkable. Good movie, much better book.

Nowadays though, I won't read him. He is too anti everything for which I stand, so I have taken a stand.

Bullshitted by Glenn B on June 7, 2008 07:58 AM

Unfortunately it isn't in the book. Neither are a lot of other scenes in the movie. Stanley Kubrick took a lot of liberties with the book, which pissed Stephen King off to no end. King's focus was on a man trying to redeem his failing personal life, only to have the worst brought out of him by the haunts of the hotel. Who knows what Kubrick was trying to do, but you knew Jack Nicholson's character was a loony just waiting to escape from the asylum from his very first scene.

Once you get past Nicholson's over the top performance and the creepy little boy running around saying "redrum, redrum" it's a pretty weak movie. Back in 1997 The Shining was remade into a miniseries with King's blessings, starring Steven Weber (I think) and Rebecca DeMornay. This was a lot more faithful to the book and if you can get over the "miniseries" feel, it's actually quite good.

Bullshitted by diamond dave on June 7, 2008 08:46 AM

Diamond Dave nailed it.

The TV miniseries was, indeed, much more faithful to the book. I like to think of them as two completely different stories. Kubrick's film looks like it was based on a different book...but worth watching for a few Art-House Moments.

Bullshitted by Elisson on June 9, 2008 06:33 AM